> Lots of people I've worked with have seen the light. [1] I presume this refers to Bazaar's status as part of the GNU project, and that RMS did not want to write off part of GNU without being certain he needed to. Or is it just fifty year olds who use it? The website focuses on practical skills about emacs. Linus Torvalds looks to Chromebooks and Android for the future of the Linux desktop, while Linux Mint developers aren't happy with each other. This is rather old article but as I can’t find similar discussion in blog posts in English, I am translating it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think most of the "Emacs is dying" predictions come from people who genuinely misunderstand what Emacs is all about; they see other great software like vscode and assume that when people refer to Emacs's "extensibility," they just mean plugins, … , Karl Fogel , 2014/01/02 Prev by Date: Re: Apologia for bzr >> Anonymous 12/07/20(Mon)20:34:58 No. This happens because sum of weight * inputs in a neuron (also called activation) becomes <= 0 for all input patterns. >Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed? Emacs is Dead (translated from Japanese) This is an English translation of ”Emacsは死んだ” by Tomohiro Matsuyama. Netcraft has confirmed: Clojure is dying. ), rusi, 2012/06/26 Re: Emacs users a dying breed?, Tom, 2012/06/22 Message not available bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/01/02. A major mode represents the primary set of enhancements that you are currently using for editing. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02; Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld <=; Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Andreas Schwab, 2014/01/02 Is EMACS dying? Anonymous 12/07/20(Mon)20:29:32 No. He is the author of the famous auto-complete.el and you may be helped a lot by his implementation of native profiler merged in the latest Emacs release (24.3).. I don't know for … Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02. As he said, 'more than Emacs is at stake here.'. ), (continued) Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/03 "No safeguard against rewriting upstream bzr history" (was: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move) , Joshua Judson Rosen , 2014/01/05 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02. r/emacs: The extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time display editor. >> > Eclipse than in Emacs: >> >> Perhaps I'm misreading this, but it looks like you disregard this >> because you don't like the result? An Emacs caml-mode is included, but I highly recommend you use Albert Cohen's stupendous tuareg-mode instead; it's probably the best language mode for Emacs I've ever used, and that's saying something. Once you got used to this, this was really pleasant to write and mutate code. ErgoEmacs is a good place to start with emacs. LWN.net re-visits the emacs-devel mailing list, where the Emacs 28 development cycle has revived discussions about how to make the text editor more "modern" and attractive to new users: A default dark theme may not be in the future, leading one to think that there may yet be hope for the world in general. Will you see youngsters using EMACS? 1. The question "what should Emacs be?" Like many who read this >list, they *use* the things that distinguish emacs from other editors: >extensibility, macros, network access, subshells, process control, and the As derivative of ReLU is 0 in this case, no weight updates are made and neuron is stuck at outputting 0. ), James Freer, 2012/06/26 Message not available; Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? > >Using emacs for more than 30 years. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02. While this fixes this specific instance of "Kernel died, restarting", the general question still stands: how to make sure that the stacktrace, like the one above, is reported to the user of Jupyter console, instead of the kernel dying silently? Math/CS student here. reason to ship every copy of emacs with several mail clients, org-mode, two irc clients, and many other very domain-specific features. 79095966. It allows a lot of easy structure editing with a decent editor. >> > > I would love this result if this were really the case, but this > does not take into account the mentions of Eclipse without the > word IDE. with git you talk about commits by their id, the SHA1 hash (or the first 12 characters of it), and that id uniquely identifies that commit, no matter what branch it's on. Why not teach newbies Emacs instead of teaching Emacs "Newbie"? I had a CompSci mentor in 1980 who used to write all of his code on paper, then punched it in with punch cards. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld <= Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Richard Stallman, 2014/01/02. On 2012-06-18, Dan Espen wrote: > Emacs often spreads quietly. At my institute, we are multiple students using Emacs, so I would say it is not dying at all. And yet we've moved on to back-and-forth discussions of _how_ to solve this undemonstrated problem. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Andreas Schwab, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, James Cloos, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02 It's already a name that practically > everyone who writes software has heard of, and the type of people that > like it stick with it. No Emacs-is-dying problem has been shown, so far. The emacs users I know are among the >most imaginative and competent people I know. > What is loaded by default is pretty > much only the Emacs Lisp interpreter and the editing core and autoload > definitions for other features. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/02 PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Frequently, major modes are for different programming languages, such as c-mode or text-mode. Parent article: Raymond: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move > and can freely talk about those commits by their revision numbers (which are by definition branch-specific). Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? It was only ported to Unix in the 1980s, as ITS was dying out. This makes emacs in effect an immigrant from a very different culture, while vi is a native. No problem => don't fix it. Don't misinterpret this, I'm glad these packages exist and use them heavily, but most occasional emacs users I know don't. r/emacs. The "Dying ReLU" refers to neuron which outputs 0 for your data in training set. I can make it work by the following advice: (advice-add 'clone-buffer :around (lambda (oldfun &rest args) "Allow cloning file buffers." File: emacs-vs-vim2.jpg (27 KB, 320x225) 27 KB JPG. Then there are users like myself. Jeremiah Dodds gmail.com> writes: > > No, why should Emacs and users and developers of Emacs be concerned with > increasing the interest in Emacs? PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req., Karl Fogel, 2014/01/02 Real lazy ppl who find it unacceptably annoying to have to add an extra keystroke each time they move from one mode to the other, like all things vi. has been raised many times, and no I think most of the "Emacs is dying" predictions come from people who genuinely misunderstand what Emacs is all about; they see other great software like vscode and assume that when people refer to Emacs's "extensibility," they just mean plugins, when in reality it's a completely different paradigm. > The Emacs distribution (.tar.gz) contains all bells and whistles but not > everything is loaded into memory. The Linux desktop is in trouble. I heard somewhere that Microsoft will be focusing their efforts on C# rather than C++ for the .NET platform. 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This causes ReLU to output 0. You can find some articles about recent features about emacs which cannot be found in books. Am 22.06.2012 13:07, schrieb Bastien: Tom writes: Jeremiah Dodds gmail.com> writes: I think it's more like "attracting more users is less of a priority than appealing to what others are used to", there's plenty of improvement and development of Emacs … Now that the dust has settled, who is on top? Emacs conferences and hangouts 1,590 views Things to note: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/01/02. Raymond: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move Posted Jan 13, 2014 11:33 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [ Link ] Yeah, local clones are probably not terribly useful for you for the reasons you suggest (though you can perfectly well push to any repo you like, you are not required to go to any fixed upstream. emacs sprang from a vastly different world: it was originally built on top of TECO, written for the ITS operating system. EmacsConf 2019 - 26b - Emacs: The Editor for the Next Forty Years (Q&A) - Perry E. Metzger - Duration: 22:55. I had emacs set up to use the unshifted square bracket keys to create and exit balanced parenthesis pairs. Regardless, he has since OKd the switch from bzr: I don't insist that Emacs should stay with bzr. Why does clone-buffer not work on file buffers. Press J to jump to the feed. We've seen no _evidence_ about a supposed dearth of newbies coming to Emacs, in spite of repeated _claims_. > > Lots of people I've worked with have seen the light. [1] I presume this refers to Bazaar's status as part of the GNU project, and that RMS did not want to write off part of GNU without being certain he needed to. Or is it just fifty year olds who use it? The website focuses on practical skills about emacs. Linus Torvalds looks to Chromebooks and Android for the future of the Linux desktop, while Linux Mint developers aren't happy with each other. This is rather old article but as I can’t find similar discussion in blog posts in English, I am translating it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think most of the "Emacs is dying" predictions come from people who genuinely misunderstand what Emacs is all about; they see other great software like vscode and assume that when people refer to Emacs's "extensibility," they just mean plugins, … , Karl Fogel , 2014/01/02 Prev by Date: Re: Apologia for bzr >> Anonymous 12/07/20(Mon)20:34:58 No. This happens because sum of weight * inputs in a neuron (also called activation) becomes <= 0 for all input patterns. >Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed? Emacs is Dead (translated from Japanese) This is an English translation of ”Emacsは死んだ” by Tomohiro Matsuyama. Netcraft has confirmed: Clojure is dying. ), rusi, 2012/06/26 Re: Emacs users a dying breed?, Tom, 2012/06/22 Message not available bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/01/02. A major mode represents the primary set of enhancements that you are currently using for editing. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02; Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld <=; Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Andreas Schwab, 2014/01/02 Is EMACS dying? Anonymous 12/07/20(Mon)20:29:32 No. He is the author of the famous auto-complete.el and you may be helped a lot by his implementation of native profiler merged in the latest Emacs release (24.3).. I don't know for … Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02. As he said, 'more than Emacs is at stake here.'. ), (continued) Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/03 "No safeguard against rewriting upstream bzr history" (was: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move) , Joshua Judson Rosen , 2014/01/05 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02. r/emacs: The extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time display editor. >> > Eclipse than in Emacs: >> >> Perhaps I'm misreading this, but it looks like you disregard this >> because you don't like the result? An Emacs caml-mode is included, but I highly recommend you use Albert Cohen's stupendous tuareg-mode instead; it's probably the best language mode for Emacs I've ever used, and that's saying something. Once you got used to this, this was really pleasant to write and mutate code. ErgoEmacs is a good place to start with emacs. LWN.net re-visits the emacs-devel mailing list, where the Emacs 28 development cycle has revived discussions about how to make the text editor more "modern" and attractive to new users: A default dark theme may not be in the future, leading one to think that there may yet be hope for the world in general. Will you see youngsters using EMACS? 1. The question "what should Emacs be?" Like many who read this >list, they *use* the things that distinguish emacs from other editors: >extensibility, macros, network access, subshells, process control, and the As derivative of ReLU is 0 in this case, no weight updates are made and neuron is stuck at outputting 0. ), James Freer, 2012/06/26 Message not available; Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? > >Using emacs for more than 30 years. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02. While this fixes this specific instance of "Kernel died, restarting", the general question still stands: how to make sure that the stacktrace, like the one above, is reported to the user of Jupyter console, instead of the kernel dying silently? Math/CS student here. reason to ship every copy of emacs with several mail clients, org-mode, two irc clients, and many other very domain-specific features. 79095966. It allows a lot of easy structure editing with a decent editor. >> > > I would love this result if this were really the case, but this > does not take into account the mentions of Eclipse without the > word IDE. with git you talk about commits by their id, the SHA1 hash (or the first 12 characters of it), and that id uniquely identifies that commit, no matter what branch it's on. Why not teach newbies Emacs instead of teaching Emacs "Newbie"? I had a CompSci mentor in 1980 who used to write all of his code on paper, then punched it in with punch cards. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld <= Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Richard Stallman, 2014/01/02. On 2012-06-18, Dan Espen wrote: > Emacs often spreads quietly. At my institute, we are multiple students using Emacs, so I would say it is not dying at all. And yet we've moved on to back-and-forth discussions of _how_ to solve this undemonstrated problem. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Bozhidar Batsov, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Andreas Schwab, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, James Cloos, 2014/01/02 Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2014/01/02 It's already a name that practically > everyone who writes software has heard of, and the type of people that > like it stick with it. No Emacs-is-dying problem has been shown, so far. The emacs users I know are among the >most imaginative and competent people I know. > What is loaded by default is pretty > much only the Emacs Lisp interpreter and the editing core and autoload > definitions for other features. Re: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move, Rüdiger Sonderfeld, 2014/01/02 PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Frequently, major modes are for different programming languages, such as c-mode or text-mode. Parent article: Raymond: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move > and can freely talk about those commits by their revision numbers (which are by definition branch-specific). Re: Emacs for writers (was Emacs users a dying breed? It was only ported to Unix in the 1980s, as ITS was dying out. This makes emacs in effect an immigrant from a very different culture, while vi is a native. No problem => don't fix it. Don't misinterpret this, I'm glad these packages exist and use them heavily, but most occasional emacs users I know don't. r/emacs. The "Dying ReLU" refers to neuron which outputs 0 for your data in training set. I can make it work by the following advice: (advice-add 'clone-buffer :around (lambda (oldfun &rest args) "Allow cloning file buffers." File: emacs-vs-vim2.jpg (27 KB, 320x225) 27 KB JPG. Then there are users like myself. Jeremiah Dodds gmail.com> writes: > > No, why should Emacs and users and developers of Emacs be concerned with > increasing the interest in Emacs? PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req., Karl Fogel, 2014/01/02 Real lazy ppl who find it unacceptably annoying to have to add an extra keystroke each time they move from one mode to the other, like all things vi. has been raised many times, and no I think most of the "Emacs is dying" predictions come from people who genuinely misunderstand what Emacs is all about; they see other great software like vscode and assume that when people refer to Emacs's "extensibility," they just mean plugins, when in reality it's a completely different paradigm. > The Emacs distribution (.tar.gz) contains all bells and whistles but not > everything is loaded into memory. The Linux desktop is in trouble. I heard somewhere that Microsoft will be focusing their efforts on C# rather than C++ for the .NET platform. 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